The challenges of teaching people to burn wood well PDF Print E-mail
Tuesday, 20 April 2010 00:00

This guest essay by Rebecca Freedman, an emission specialist with the British Columbia Ministry of Healthy Living and Sport, expands on a comment posted at The Woodpile. We hope it prompts a dialogue among those whose work involves communicating with the public about wood heating.


I commented in response to the Wood Smoke Emission Reductions Through Public Education article, in which John wrote:

“The lack of good quality public information is not for lack of intelligence or creativity. I think the biggest reason why emission reduction through public information is in its infancy is because it is a very difficult task and that the agencies with resources, like government and manufacturers, are populated by technologists and marketing specialists, not sociologists and educators.”

The statement piqued my interest because I work for the government of British Columbia and, with both a marketing and education background, I believe in the critical role that public education and behaviour change must play in reducing wood smoke emissions. I run a province-wide woodstove exchange program, giving funding and capacity to local governments to promote exchanges, offer incentives, and deliver education. We currently have 23 programs running and over 3000 exchanges in three years.

We've promoted the Burn It Smart public information workshop model because it is very comprehensive and offers the opportunity for wood burners to learn from people who are trained and certified under the Wood Energy Technical Training (WETT) program, experts who can answer all their questions.

The problem is that we don't get very many people out to these resource-intensive sessions. Typically our coordinators spend $1500 to $2000 for each workshop, market them in the local papers, get retailers on board with the promotion, involve delivery partners such as the local fire department, and offer great door prizes (sometimes even a new stove!) – all great stuff from a marketing perspective. Yet, for the most part, the number of people coming out to the workshops has been really low. In one of the most populated regional districts in BC, a Burn It Smart workshop scheduled a few weeks ago was cancelled when only 5 individuals registered for the event!

So I've been thinking a lot about education and how we can reach more people. It is something that I discuss with my 23 program coordinators on a regular basis. Here are a few observations to add to the discussion:

One issue that John alluded to is that people may not even be aware that they are causing a problem. How often do people actually step outside their homes to see what their chimney is doing? People may see the advertising for the workshop or receive the Burn Wise info sheets but unless they gain the awareness that they are doing something wrong, these educational efforts won't resonate with them.

A few of my coordinators are trying something different. Instead of messaging about burning it smart, they are marketing a 'check it' message - check your wood to make sure it is dry, check your chimney to make sure it isn't smoking, etc. Another coordinator wants to organize neighborhood walks as a way to get people outside and discussing wood heating and outdoor impacts. We'll have to wait and see how successful these approaches will be.

I agree with the point another reader made that somehow the vendors are key to education delivery because they are the ones able to have face to face conversations with customers. I do appreciate the comment about how busy vendors are but we've got to explore this one a little more. We know that new stoves are not meant to be operated the same way old stoves were. Fostering proper operation of the new appliance is as important a role for the vendors as making sure they are selling the correct appliance for the customers’ heating space and needs. Providing an educational pamphlet at the time of sale will not be enough.

Social marketing and social learning research tells us that the most powerful form of information exchange is through face to face interactions. On that note, is there something more that installers could do while they are in people's homes to demonstrate proper operation? Are there other message-delivery people we can involve? We've tried to get firewood vendors and insurance companies involved by creating fact sheets for them to aid in the conversations they might have with customers. But the insurance companies prove to be a challenge because they care about fire safety and building codes, not about emissions.

Proper storage of wood so that it seasons is another issue. One of my coordinators is constantly coming across poor wood piles and is convinced that if we can correct this behavior we can make a big difference. People do take pride in their wood pile; it is a sign that they are self-sufficient for their heating needs. Perhaps we need to be fostering this sense of pride and make the examples of good wood storage more visible in communities. Much like the block leader approach to recycling, in which people are more likely to put their blue box out simply because their neighbors do, the creation of neighborhood norms and expectations for good wood storage could be very powerful.

There are some good case studies right now about home energy use and the power of social norm appeals where people get feedback about how their energy usage compares with their neighbors. People tend to want to conform with the norm (the majority) and will adjust their behavior accordingly. Perhaps there is something we can do for wood burners to motivate them towards the norm (proper wood burning) in order for them to be more receptive to the operational techniques promoted on this site. Can we provide feedback on the number of cords of wood that the ‘good wood burners’ use in a neighborhood compared to how much wood a ‘poor wood burner’ goes through? Can we provide feedback on the number of homes being heated with wood in a neighborhood that don’t have smoky chimneys and let people know if they are in this category or not? Would this sort of feedback make a difference? This would make a great little study for a university course somewhere!

Over this next year I will be putting my mind to how we can promote the education around wood burning once our incentive money dries up. We, like many others, will have scarce resources, so it is more important than ever to explore cost effective education that produces results.

RF

Comments (20)
  • John Vere
    Excellent stuff Rebecca! I'm very focused on this topic and you got me thinking about some of your possible solutions. I think if the problem of wood smoke is within the smaller communities that we stand a chance to reach people through the social marketing model. Not sure how it would work in a larger community where people tend to keep to themselves. It is always my hope that the 6 people who come to the workshops go back home and tell 6 other people about what they have learned and on and on. I'm hoping to do a door to door campaign next fall which will include a short survey.
  • John Gulland
    Yes, I agree about there being better prospects in smaller communities, maybe by getting key civic leaders to endorse clean burning and getting the community newspaper behind the project. I also agree that word of mouth can be effective. These are all things that are more easily done in small communities.

    I like the idea of going door to door. I've been thinking about ways to better document peoples' existing views and possible misconceptions about wood heating so they can be better addressed in public information. A survey is one obvious way to do that.

    John, I'd like to hear more about your work and your plans.
  • Dave  - Burning wood poorly may be just the nature of the
    That beast could be in the fuel source, or the human who burns it. In many cases it is the human beast where the problem lies. I have a neighbor who sees himself as an expert at all things rural. In many ways he is. He has spent decades heating with wood in bush Alaska, and when he built his home near me, he designed it to be energy efficient, with lots of insulation, small windows, and kept it relatively small in area compared with the standard house of today. His only source of heat is wood, and when he decided after much research, picked a modern EPA stove with a good reputation. Unfortunately one of his requirements for this stove was that it hold a fire for at least 8 hours, so considering the spruce that grows here in this corner of Alaska, that meant a relatively (to the heating requirements of his house) large stove. This stove burned too hot for the requirements of the house. So he put a chimney damper on it, choking off any chance of secondary combustion. When you drive past, there is always a cloud of smoke hanging in the trees. When you go inside you can smell a slight smoke oder inside as well. His glass door is completely black and the fire is not visible through it at all. He seems pleased that he can get a fire going again without newspaper in the morning. He is burning seasoned wood, has a nice woodshed etc..
    This is just one example of how we burn wood badly. Another reason that we burn wood badly is that have gotten completely away from being "hands on" in the past 45 years. Remember the cars in the late 50's and 60's that had manual chokes? Can you imagine how that would go over today? Wood burning doesn't lend itself well to automation, and regardless of the amount of education available, most people are never going to bother to get all the variables just right, from choosing a stove, to seasoning the wood, to splitting it the right size, to building the fire etc etc, there will be too many ways to screw it up. It comes down to the person. Some will want to try. I have gotten my Jotul Black Bear to burn cleanly through careful monitoring and keeping the right sized fire etc, but I doubt I will ever manage to get my wife to pay that much attention to it to get the same results. Her head is full of other things, and I suspect that is the case for most people. Probably the easiest way for the hands off automated person to heat with wood cleanly would be with a masonry heater, but at $10 to 20k not many will ever be able to afford one.
  • John Gulland  - Low turn out at BiS workshops
    I am disappointed to hear about low attendance at BiS workshops in BC.

    Our experience here in Eastern Ontario has been entirely different, and I spent some time wondering why that might be. I came up with one big difference between the two jurisdictions that might be a factor.

    In BC, both the provincial and municipal levels of government have engaged the public about wood smoke for the past twenty years. The requirement that only advanced stoves be sold was established in 1994. Some municipal governments have enacted fairly aggressive local regulations in the years since then. And the GVRD and the medical officer of health have made their own noises about wood heating, as I recall.

    Is it possible that much of the resulting media coverage and attempts at public information has made people who heat with wood feel suspicious and wary about engaging? Do they just roll their eyes and assume it will just be another self-righteous lecture by people who don't think they should be burning wood? Does the problem of attendance have its roots in the history of the past 20 years?

    The reason I ask is that the situation in Ontario is very different. The province has been almost entirely silent on the subject (some would say asleep at the switch). Very few municipalities have grappled with wood smoke problems, except related to outdoor boilers, fire pits and chimeneas.

    People who heat with wood in Ontario are on the whole blissfully ignorant of all the smoke and controversy in other jurisdictions. So, when we market a BiS workshop and pitch it as a way to make wood heating more efficient and convenient, the idea seems fresh and different, and people come out in impressive numbers.

    The series of 11 workshops delivered by the Wood Heat Organization in 2004 had an average attendance of 144 and we had 310 at one of them. We delivered one in January 2010 in a town of around 1000 population and had almost 200 turn out. Our report is here:
    http://www.woodheat.org/tips/burnitsmart/burnitsmart.htm

    Rebecca, have you ever considered this issue, or gotten feedback from people that they suspicious of the sponsor's motives? There just has to be a reason why people show up in one area and don't in others. Considering the cost of putting these things on, it is a problem we really need to come to grips with.
  • Vic Steblin
    I attended a session in Prince George and was very impressed with the content and person giving the presentation. Then I found out how much experience and care one needs to burn decently and decided that it was virtually impossible to do properly. Yes, anyone can use a match nowadays and think that they can burn, and they can, smoke everywhere, like out in the bush at a campfire. A proper fire needs more attention than a pet and maybe even a child! Most of us cannot burn decently and should go the easy, clean way and just butt out. Sorry, my gut-level opinion. Get active and just wear warm clothes. Use the clean fuels in really cold situations slightly and double up on the socks, sweaters and long underwear.
  • John Gulland
    That is the third time in these pages you have pitched the idea of not heating houses. I don't think you would repeat that idea if you lived in a place with winter temperatures falling to -20 or -30C.

    I also disagree with the level of difficulty you associate with good wood heating. While there are certainly people like the guy Dave mentioned who really don't get it, there are many others who, upon learning what good burn technique is all about, get great satisfaction from the improvement in efficiency and convenience and take pride in their ability to burn wood without smoke.

    Yes, there are people who really shouldn't heat with wood because of their temperament. It is for those people that municipal bylaws are needed that apply sanctions to those who persist in making a lot of smoke.
  • John Vere
    Hi John , I've been reading you excellent forum here for a couple of months and have not felt the need to jump in because once I start I can really get going! My wife will go nuts if I join yet another on line topic forum.

    Good point about the difference between cultures but I'm not sure if that is the issue. My gut feeling are that people are just not that interested in the topic of wood heat any more than they would be interested in the topic of toilet seat covers. The root of the problem seems to be that everyone already "knows" everything about the topic. They also think we are accusing them of being ignorant by calling the program "burn it smart" like what? were we "burning it stupid"?
    I will be trying a different approach this Friday and I'm calling the workshop " Home Energy and Heating" I will have a person do a presentation on all alterative energy. So we are packaging the wood heat as just yet another renewable fuel source. Because I don't have a burn trailer I will use your video clip. It's just as effective and a lot less work.

  • Dave
    I think John Gulland made an interesting and valid comment. "It is for those people that municipal bylaws are needed that apply sanctions to those who persist in making a lot of smoke." First John. Yes I agree that people can learn, it is not that difficult to get a modern stove that is sized right for the particular house and otherwise installed correctly to burn cleanly with seasoned wood. However I will fall back on my original claim that in post 20th century North America, people are generally lazy to having to do anything but turn up the dial on their central heat. Fortunately most of those are too lazy to get firewood inside the house and into the stove to begin with. Of course that can change when the price of fuel oil spikes, and then problems occur. In my hometown of Fairbanks AK, when the energy crisis struck a few years ago people with big fat homes heated with oil fired boilers were forced to make a choice, largely out of panic over the very sudden insane fuel bills, and the options weren't all that good. A lot of them took the quick fix path of least resistance which entailed an outdoor wood fired boiler, a backhoe, to dig the heating pipes into their existing system and a 40 cord supply of green wood because that was all that was available on short notice. The inversion problem Fairbanks has always faced when temps fall to -40 or -50 took on a whole new sense of urgency when the EPA started with rumblings of cutting off highway funds etc to the area for non-compliance with air standards for 2.5 particulates. Con artists for the most part brought in those "clean burning" outdoor boilers by the semi load and sold them to a desperate public. A great portion of those were sized way too big, forcing them to smolder the flame 90% of the time. You can just imagine the suburban smoke seen there.
    Anyway, I agree with John's statement that it is going to take regulation to force people to burn clean. It wont be easy as could be seen at the Fairbanks Borough meeting on solutions for cleaning up the air, where irate citizens, some of which were carrying firearms openly came in droves to protest. Interesting times for sure!
  • John Gulland
    Very true. The Fairbanks situation is a cautionary tale for us all.
  • John Vere
    Vic you make some very excellent points. I agree 100% that its fine for those who are at home all day and have the time and skills needed. If you are a busy person wood heat is a bad idea.
  • Paul Nash
    Good post Rebecca.

    I am new to this forum, though I have used the woodheat.org site as source of information in the past. I live in Sechelt, British Columbia, right in the heart of Rebecca's target area for wood heating, and I can say I have not taken much notice of the marketing, and neither have any of the other people I know who burn wood. There is definitely an attitude of "I know what I'm doing" to us wood burners, even though it is clear that not everyone does know what they are doing.

    The suggestion about marketing through the installers is good and bad. God because they are in the best position to educate a new stove recipient, bad because if you buy a house with a wood stove/fireplace already there, like I did, you are not using the services of an installer!

    My house had an old wood stove downstairs and a modern fireplace insert upstairs. We bought the house in April, and the insurance company stated, very clearly, they would not insure the house if the old wood stove (not WETT certified and can't be) was still there come October. That got my attention better than any marketing campaign ever could.

    I cut my own wood, season it and treat operating the fire a bit like cooking (which I also do) - you need to pay a little attention to get the best results. I got into the habit of cleaning the glass every day before starting the fire. Viewing it through crystal clean glass is like watching hi def TV, only cheaper, and sometimes more entertaining. It is also a good way to see how well the fire is burning - if the glass is smoking up, it;s not right, usually too slow. I learned to get the vent at the right setting overnight (1/4 open) so the glass was not smoked up in the morning.

    I also have the advantage of being able to see the chimney through the kitchen skylight - I check the smoke every time I start and load - it is indeed the best way to monitor the fireplace. I noticed with the upside down way of firestarting (paper on top) that there is almost no smoke right from the start. Anyone knows a smoking car is bad, and wastes fuel - the fireplace is no different.

    A year and a half of heating with the insert later, we had it serviced by the local fireplace company, did a very good job, the serviceman was very knowledgeable, and explained a few subtleties I didn't know.

    Putting all this together, I would suggest the best way to reach people is through their insurance companies. If it became industry standard that you MUST get your fireplace serviced, by a WETT professional, every year, or your house insurance is void, that would get people's attention. The servicemen can then note the age and type of fireplace and put that into a gov database, so they know who's got what. Sounds Orwellian, but we already have that with our cars, social security and our houses themselves, so this is really no different. people with old fireplaces can be targeted for marketing.
    The gov could also produce a CD on proper wood burning and have the servicemen distribute them - think most people would watch it at least once.

    The WETT training should also include training on delivering good customer service - not all of them are as good as the one I had, and one I know fits the old image of a dirty chimney sweep - he is WETT certified, but I wouldn;t let him near my house.

    I would also suggest publishing standards on wood moisture, and have moisture meters available to rent/buy from fireplace shops, and (if possible) have firewood vendors state their moisture content.

    Finally, if you want a good incentive to get people to go to the workshops, I would simply offer either free firewood, or a free service of the fireplace/chimney.

    Wood heat is also good for the local economy. For every $ spent on gas/oil/electricity, at least 90c of it leaves the local economy immediately. With wood, anything you spend stays local, and with houses spending over $1000/yr on heating, that is a lot of money leaving the local economy
  • John Gulland
    Paul Nash wrote:
    "I also have the advantage of being able to see the chimney through the kitchen skylight - I check the smoke every time I start and load - it is indeed the best way to monitor the fireplace. I noticed with the upside down way of firestarting (paper on top) that there is almost no smoke right from the start. Anyone knows a smoking car is bad, and wastes fuel - the fireplace is no different."
    That is great; we should all be so lucky as to be able to see our chimneys through a skylight!!
    People often tell me or imply that I am naive to expect people to change their way of wood heating if they get good information presented effectively; that people can learn to burn wood better. But you, Paul, are proof that it is just a set of skills that can be mastered, provided there is an incentive, like a beautiful fire to watch and the satisfaction of looking up at the chimney top and seeing no smoke.
    Do you have any insight into why you have adopted new wood heating skills while others haven't?
  • Paul Nash
    John,

    I have to confess at this point that I am an engineer (civil and environmental) so it is in my nature to try to "optimise" any process that I am involved with. I used to manage energy utilities for a ski resort, and make a living doing water (and energy) conservation projects, so I was determined to get the most out of my wood. I grew up with it on the farm, so I am no stranger to it either.

    But, if I had to pick one thing, it was when I started cleaning the glass every day. Before that, if I had a hot coal fire it would "clean the glass", but come morning, it was fogged up again. Once I cleaned it properly (using cleaner for ceramic glass stove tops), the difference was amazing, it was just mesmerizing. During the Xmas season my neighbours (all wood burners) commented that my "lazy fire" with the blue flames was the most amazing they had seen - one person asked if it was a gas fireplace!

    When I walk around the block to the mailbox, the house across the road ALWAYS has gray, acrid smoke coming out, when there's no wind it just hangs around everywhere. That gives us all a bad name and I am determined to show that wood burning can be as clean as NG. Using the top down starting method, my chimney runs clear haze within two minutes, and then stays that way

    Anyway, a bit like cooking, or art, or woodwork, you can just do it, or you can do it with some pride.

    The other thing I like, is that it connects you to your energy source, even if you are buying the wood, you appreciate what goes on, and how much you use, far more than just by adjusting a thermostat. Because you can't see a pile of electricity of NG, you just have no concept, but two cords of wood - seems like an unbelievable amount at the start of winter, but when you are part way through you realise that you'd better make the most of it, and you might as well be able to see it while it burns - since you can't do that with anything other than a fireplace.
  • Rebecca Freedman  - Insurance
    Thanks Paul

    You'll be happy to know that we have produced such a dvd for wood burners (it contains the 3 videos that John stars in!). I'd be happy to send you one or connect you with the local coordinator on the Sunshine Coast.

    I like your idea about making sure WETT technicians have the dvd and other info to distribute and will propose this at an upcoming meeting with the WETT BC association.

    I really agree that a great way to get to wood burners would be the insurance industry but we haven't been able to get very far. Their primary concern is chimney fires and there is not enough evidence in their minds that newer certified appliances significantly reduce the risk of claims. The insurance industry association doesn't seem to be interested in a blanket requirement for WETT inspections on wood stoves. I know some individual companies have this policy - the WETT inspectors will not pass the inspection for old appliances, so this would essentially help us remove the old ones. But this is not the case across the board. We are currently working from a bottom up approach - my local coordinators are building partnerships with individual companies to promote the importance of certified appliances and also to distribute our educational material. If anyone knows how we can further this type of partnership with the insurance industry, I'd love to work with you!

    Now we just need to figure out how to get skylights strategically placed in everyone's roofs...
  • Paul Nash
    Hi Rebecca,

    Well, so much for trying to patent the DVD idea!

    As for the insurance companies, my view is this;
    modern wood burners *can* burn cleaner, it the operator knows what they are doing. And he best prevention for a chimney fire is for the operator to know what they are doing, and get it swept every year, regardless of the stove type.
    What is their position if the house burns down because of a chimney fire - do they hold back/reduce claim payment?

    The skylight being where it is, is probably just a coincidence - but if I were building a new house, I would do it again. Certainly the best advice I can give is to look at your smoke, regularly - just like checking the health of your car engine by looking at the exhaust.

    I will contact you directly and we can talk some more about your program.
  • Larry Tabor  - targeted marketing may be needed.
    Good observations and I like the "Check it" concept, but I think that the promotional program has to go further than just a surface marketing campaign. We touched on this a few weeks ago.

    Some wood burners tend to be interverted, concerned about govt intervention, and maybe a little on the paranoid side. Getting to these type of people will take the right approach. I think that we need to focus on how these people learn and absorb information, in order to create the right approach. It may be different from market to market and maybe John point is correct. The seminars work in Ontairo, because of the govt. hands off approach, where that same type of seminar might not work in BC.
    Certainly, we need to talk to these people and using the vendor network to teach proper burning techniques will work for new wood burners, but not for established smokers. We know that smokers need help but they already have the less expensive heating device. We need to get into their mindset, and figure out how they learn, in order to present the right message to them in a way that they will accept it. Putting out the wrong form of message will continue the trend of teaching the local population by the "one on one" basis.

  • John Vere
    Thanks for your "though the eyes of the regular woodburner" post Paul. It is very helpful for us exchange program coordinators to hear the user perspective on our attempt to spread the word. I was in the barbershop today and overheard someone say “ you can’t trust anything the government say’s” In other words, the government is not a reliable source of information?? Oh well. I’m hoping to attend this workshop next fall on Social Based Marketing, maybe they’ll have some answers.
    The insurance companies do have the power to get your attention and a good number of stove exchanges have resulted from homeowners receiving a letter from them requesting a WETT inspection.
    But for the most part, they leave there clients alone because as Rebecca say’s, very few homes actually burn down from wood stove use. Most fires are caused by old wiring and they don’t ask to have that inspected or upgraded so there you go.
    Having a WETT inspection is also no guarantee of safety either. I attended a 3 day WETT training course so I’d be better informed as a coordinator. There’s a lot to learn and it also take time in the field to become certified. But once you have your piece of paper you are not really policed by anyone and can make your own rules. This drives me nuts. One inspector will not pass old stoves but 2 others will. As long as they meet the “uncertified” stove clearances they are good to go for another half century. These guys seem more interested in selling the homeowner expensive chimney liners.
  • John Gulland
    I agree, John, that Paul's (and Larry's) insights are helpful because they are regular users.

    Just to set the record straight, there is nothing inherently wrong with a stove that is not safety certified, except of course, that it smokes.

    The fact is that people who hold valid WETT certificates of qualification should be applying the CSA B365 installation code as it is written. If you check B365 you will see that much of its content is rules for the safe installation of appliances that are not safety certified. So, it is not the job or mandate of a WETT certificate holder to accept or reject an appliance, unless it cannot be installed in accordance with the provisions of B365.

    Please don't blame WETT certificate holders for applying the code as written. If you don't like what is in B365, you would need to work on changing it.

    Back in the 1980s when I owned a wood stove store, I had a guy on staff who was an antique cook stove specialist. He completely rebuilt a very old cook stove that was an heirloom for a local family going back three generations. The cost of the job was $5500. Would it be reasonable to tell the family they couldn't use that gleaming like-new stove, even though it had been in their cottage for 60 years?
  • John Vere
    John G. My observations of WETT inspections is that one inspector will pass something NOT to code and there is no policing of this. This is feedback I get from both my exchange clients and the other inspectors. Yes I'm fully aware that an uncertified stove will pass as long as they meet the requirements as stated in the code book. They rarely do. Most do not have the clearances.
  • vicki Morell  - regarding burning wood safe
    There is always 2 sides 2 every story. I have been trying to meet with the Ministry of Healthy Living & Sport but they no longer return my emails.

    As a person who has no recourse in the City of Vancouver against a neighbour's wood burning fireplace and deals with many others as the founder of the Canadian Clean Air Alliance please don't give this ministry too much praise as they have and do not protect
    any of us in the Province of BC.

    I have asked for commercials and adds but they ignore such requests. Instead they promote the burn it smart program which by the way, there is not 1 study to prove that you can burn it healthy.

    As far as the wood stove exchange program been a success, well the study that is going on up in Canada's North right now is proving that the exchange is not reducing PM 2.5 pollution.

    As long as things are done on a voluntary basis and not until people are fined at least $500.00 - $5000.00 for polluting another's air then many people including myself will still be surrounded by these toxic emissions even in the City of Vancouver BC.

    How fair is that?
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